From Cardiac Care to Chakra Clear: A Nurse's Transformation
If you've ever questioned the status quo of healthcare, you're in for a wild ride with Jodi Anne Law! She’s a former cardiac nurse who traded in the chaos of traditional medicine for the serene world of energy healing.
We tackle everything from her roots in Australia to her experiences in the UK, and how those shaped her understanding of health. Jodi shares her personal story of burnout and the awakening that led her to a more holistic approach. It’s not just about treating symptoms; it’s about finding balance within your body and mind.
With her witty banter and relatable anecdotes, she breaks down complex ideas into bite-sized pieces that make total sense. Whether you're a skeptic or a firm believer in energy work, this episode will challenge your perspective. Tune in to discover how Jodi empowers others to reconnect with their intuition and find their true path to healing!
Takeaways:
- This episode dives deep into the idea that our emotional and physical health are interconnected, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness and intuition in healing.
- Jodi shares her journey from traditional Western medicine to holistic energy healing, providing insights on how energy can empower individuals to take charge of their health.
- We discuss the significant impact of stress on chronic illnesses and how understanding your body's energy can lead to profound healing transformations.
- The conversation highlights that healing is a lifelong journey, with each person's path unique and shaped by their experiences and beliefs.
You can connect with Jodi on her website at: https://www.jodiannelaw.com
And on her social media platforms:
YT: https://www.youtube.com/@jodiannelaw-energyhealing3007
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodi-law-73a200b8/
FB: https://www.facebook.com/jodiannelaw/
Instagram: @jodiannelaw
Transcript
Hey.
Speaker A:Welcome back to another episode of A Warrior Spirit, the show where the inner warriors shine in their light.
Speaker A:Presented by Praxis33, the company that aligns your thoughts, goals and actions to create your best life.
Speaker A:I'm your host, Darrell Snow.
Speaker A:Have you ever been disillusioned with Western medicine?
Speaker A:Have you ever felt that there has to be a better way to treat your body?
Speaker A:Today we're speaking with Jodi Anlaw and Jody is a highly trained certified energy medicine practitioner and an energy healer.
Speaker A:She's a senior cardiac nurse and provides a holistic approach to activate the body's energy systems to heal itself.
Speaker A:Burnt out, she left traditional healthcare to follow her passion for holistic healing.
Speaker A:Now she empowers those in emotional and physical pain to take control of their health, understand their bodies and connect with their intuition.
Speaker A:Jodi, I welcome you to the show.
Speaker B:Hi Darrell, thank you very much.
Speaker B:Nice to be here.
Speaker A:You'd think with that intro that I've never done this before.
Speaker A:That was clicking around where it's early here.
Speaker A:You're in the uk, where are you at?
Speaker B:Yes, yeah, I'm in Manchester, so we're 4:00 in the afternoon.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So you've had a full day to wake up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Slowing down now, so be nice.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:Did you grow up in the UK or where did you grow up?
Speaker B:No, I grew up in Australia.
Speaker B:I've been here nearly, oh, six years now.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:So what was it like being a young girl in Australia?
Speaker B:Well, it, I guess whether I'm biased or not, it was pretty free, to be honest.
Speaker B:I grew up, I'm a country girl.
Speaker B:So Perth is the most isolated city in the world in Western Australia and I grew up five and a half hours drive south of there.
Speaker B:So if you keep going, you'd hit the Antarctica sort of thing.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So, you know, even the now the town still has 16, 000 people in the shire as well as the town, so it's not a big place.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:But, but it's a port, it's on the coast.
Speaker A:So when you say free, what, what does that mean to you?
Speaker B:Lots of space.
Speaker B:And, and even though south, it's a milder climate than what you usually associate with Australia, you can still, you know, swim all year round and, and we were a kilometer away from the beach, so I just used to ride my bike down.
Speaker B:I was a surf lifesaver in my teenage years.
Speaker B:A bit like Baywatch, but I'm a pretty flat chested, so not quite the same.
Speaker B:But we had the red bathers and I was Obsessed with that for a long time.
Speaker B:So, so it was just the ease of getting around and I guess playing as a kid.
Speaker B:We had a three quarter acre block and that wasn't unusual and that we were, we were considered town.
Speaker B:Town folk.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:And I mean if you're rural and you're on a farm, our next door neighbors had a farm and you'd, even though we didn't have one ourselves, you'd be, you'd go out to them because a lot of people around the district did have.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And my father actually owned the commercial laundry down there.
Speaker B:So we used to go to all the, all the hotels and collect all the dirty laundry.
Speaker B:And so that was what we did in the town on our Saturday morning.
Speaker A:So how does, how does someone go from pretending to be on Baywatch to being a, to a nurse?
Speaker A:Because you were in, you were a cardiac nurse for a long time.
Speaker A:So how did you transition yourself into medicine?
Speaker B:Yeah, that's a really good question.
Speaker B:I suppose through my teenage years I ended up at my high school years.
Speaker B:I ended up in Perth in the city.
Speaker B:You know, it was 1.1 million people at the time, so it's not a big city comparison to most cities.
Speaker B:And I went to high school, I went to high school there and then boarding school and then I studied, stayed on and did my university there.
Speaker B:But I got into it.
Speaker B:I'd always done, funnily enough, I'd always done care with the disabled.
Speaker B:I know they don't call them that anymore, but it was the, the special school down the road.
Speaker B:I went on camps with them and just local groups of disabled, physically disabled children.
Speaker B:I'd always worked with them, so I knew it was something, going to be something in the health system.
Speaker B:I didn't really know what.
Speaker B:And then I guess it was just a transition into, to care.
Speaker B:And I also wanted to do something I could travel with easily.
Speaker B:That was probably my two prerequisites.
Speaker B:And so I went into nursing.
Speaker B:And the thing with nursing though, you can really travel with it.
Speaker B:And my first nursing job was in northern Western Australia in the mining towns.
Speaker B:So I've actually done a lot of rural nursing and that's, that is so different.
Speaker B:It's so different than city nursing.
Speaker B:And then, you know, I end up in the uk which is, it's so different again from Australia, nursing living within a city environment.
Speaker B:So yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So many different.
Speaker A:How is, I understand how mining nursing can be different because it's sometimes more triage and a different environment.
Speaker A:But how is the nursing from Australia to UK Different.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So I guess there's a lot of more.
Speaker B:A lot more red tape here.
Speaker B:Oh, is.
Speaker B:Is the reality of it.
Speaker B:And, and because I've done a lot of rural nursing as well.
Speaker B:I mean, in a city environment in Australia, obviously it's more restricted that you don't have the autonomy either, but there's even less autonomy here.
Speaker B:And certainly in the outback Australia, you have a lot of autonomy because there's no one else there.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And that.
Speaker B:And I guess that was.
Speaker B:That was what I really enjoyed.
Speaker A:So how long did you.
Speaker A:Because, you know, you kind of grew up a free spirit.
Speaker A:You had a lot of autonomy, a lot of freedom, a lot of things that you could do.
Speaker A:It kind of translated into your first practice of medicine, where it's still, you know, some autonomy, some freedom, and then it seems like you got more constricted and more constricted and more constricted.
Speaker A:How long did it take you to.
Speaker A:To realize that that was enough?
Speaker A:When did your burnout occur?
Speaker A:Like five years into Australia or.
Speaker B:I mean, no, like, seriously.
Speaker B:So you've got your professional life and you've got your home life.
Speaker B:So really, I've always used nursing.
Speaker B:I've moved a lot.
Speaker B:Like, my longest nursing job's been two years anywhere.
Speaker B:Like, that's ridiculous, isn't it?
Speaker B:In a lifetime.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:I used it to my advantage, but I obviously needed to fuel that mental side of things.
Speaker B:And then also I was in a relationship.
Speaker B:I was married for 20 years, but it wasn't a very.
Speaker B:It didn't serve me a lot.
Speaker B:Like, by the time I left, I.
Speaker B:I didn't know who I was.
Speaker B:And so I had those two rungs going sort of at the same time.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And at the time when you're in it, I didn't even.
Speaker B:Just talking to you.
Speaker B:Now I realize how much freedom I have had growing up and in my life and what I expect now.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And I haven't had it.
Speaker B:I'm starting to get it back now.
Speaker B:I'm doing what I'm passionate about.
Speaker B:But for years, like, it was like having a noose around my neck from not just the work side of things, but the family side as well.
Speaker B:So, you know, because I actually, when I left, I had been married for 20 years and I left and I was not in such.
Speaker B:I was in such a bad place that I left my two young children behind.
Speaker B:They were five and seven.
Speaker B:I mean, no one does that if they're happy.
Speaker A:No, especially not mothers, typically.
Speaker A:So how did you meet your husband?
Speaker B:Actually, I'D actually been over in the UK doing the backpack trip that you do, lots of Australians do.
Speaker B:And I went back home.
Speaker B:So I was living with my parents, Paul Post my backpacking and I met him.
Speaker B:I met him through them.
Speaker B:He was there at dinner one night and so I met him and then.
Speaker B:And then things went downhill from there.
Speaker A:You can thank your parents for the 20 years the.
Speaker B:You do have to laugh.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's what keeps us sane for sure.
Speaker A:What started off as a romance.
Speaker A:When did it start to devolve for you?
Speaker B:It was pretty early on by the time I got back.
Speaker B:And you mentioned earlier how did I end up getting into the restriction of an institution like nursing by then at that stage I'd.
Speaker B:I was already had a love hate relationship with nursing.
Speaker B:I loved helping the people and that.
Speaker B:That goes to today.
Speaker B:But the institution was so suffocating and my first nursing job, interestingly enough even though it was in a mining town, the, the indigenous population were there so.
Speaker B:But the, the.
Speaker B:There were so many things that I saw in my naive 18 year old state that I just was.
Speaker B:I was gobsmacked with just the lack of integration and the lack of understanding of.
Speaker B:Of.
Speaker B:Of a different race even though they were the, the national race and how we dealt with them and it was like we were trying to.
Speaker B:White man was trying to play God and yet it was a bit.
Speaker B:But it's a textbook white man.
Speaker B:Why don't you actually get out there and see how they function as to what they actually need.
Speaker B:So I was really quite disillusioned at that stage because I was going to work for the Royal Flying Doctors and do all that sort of thing.
Speaker B:So I was only there for about 10 months and then I.
Speaker B:At that.
Speaker B:At that stage you could actually.
Speaker B:Each state in Australia has their own even medical board as well at the time they had a separate.
Speaker B:At the time they did anyway and so I just wrote to the different hospitals for a new job and I ended up getting a job in Queensland which is, you know, over the other side of Australia at the.
Speaker B:At Royal Brisbane Hospital on their orthopedic ward.
Speaker B:So I went over there and, and, and I was disillusioned with that.
Speaker B:I was only there for three months and then I left and went back to Perth and decided I'd go to the uk.
Speaker B:So by the time I got back from the UK I was so desperate for direction and hello.
Speaker B:That's when I met my ex husband and.
Speaker A:And how old were you when you were traveling to the UK and then coming back?
Speaker B:That was early 20s, about 22.
Speaker A:22, yeah.
Speaker A:Still, when you have a vision of the world that is kind of Kumbaya, everybody should be nice to each other and you know, it doesn't translate well.
Speaker A:Once you start diving into the institution of institutions, that disillusionment goes away.
Speaker A:And if you don't conform to it, then it really causes a lot of misery within your soul.
Speaker A:And even the conforming to it causes misery because you have this ideation of what the world should be and you're finding out that oh my gosh, not everyone had the wonderful freedom and life that I had.
Speaker A:And not everyone cares for each other in the way that I do.
Speaker A:We see that a lot in.
Speaker A:It's amazing that I've talked to people all over the world and it's the same.
Speaker A:Humans are the same.
Speaker A:I mean we behave the same.
Speaker A:Those of us who have a heart centered lifestyle and want to help others have that same disillusionment.
Speaker A:When we get into the institutions, no matter where we are in the world, they all crush the soul of humanity.
Speaker B:Oh, and this is the thing, and you think we would learn from that because we're as human beings, we created it, so surely we can create the Kumbaya as well.
Speaker B:And, and the bubble that we want to live in.
Speaker B:It's on it's mass, isn't it?
Speaker B:It's getting the right number of people because I honestly believe every single person has been put on this earth for a purpose and no two people have the same purpose.
Speaker B:So there should be no competition in terms of cutthroatness.
Speaker B:It's just like let's allow everybody to be who they've been put on this earth to be.
Speaker B:Everyone's soul would be happy and wouldn't the world be such a different place?
Speaker B:And I truly believe that we can do that.
Speaker B:We just need enough people to say that's what we want.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I, I mean that in my coaching business that's what I help my clients understand.
Speaker A:You know, their limiting beliefs are put on them by the people around them, not just themselves, but they start to believe everybody else's version of who they should be instead of who they were meant to be.
Speaker A:And one of the biggest problems that I find, most people think of everything as finite, like it's a piece of pie.
Speaker A:And if I don't get my piece of the pie, there won't be any pie left.
Speaker A:Everything is infinite and there's infinite ability for everybody to share in the infinite energy and life that's out there.
Speaker A:And when, when the when you think of it as pie, yeah, you want your share of it, but when you think of it as, you know, your own bakery, well, this is it, isn't it?
Speaker B:Like, you know, we're as limited as we limit.
Speaker B:We're the ones that limit ourselves as individual depending on, depends on all sorts of things, of course, but we totally are, I mean the more open we are and heart centered we are, life is unlimited.
Speaker B:And I, I, I absolutely 100%.
Speaker B:Why, why wouldn't I want that?
Speaker B:Why wouldn't everyone want that?
Speaker A:Well, yeah, why wouldn't everyone want that?
Speaker A:So how does this young, energetic, carefree woman get into a marriage that goes south quickly according to you, and stay for 20 years?
Speaker A:Like that doesn't seem, no, it seriously.
Speaker B:Like, exactly like why?
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:Well, at the time, at the time I was very, I definitely was looking for, for something, for some direction and he was a lot older than me and my parents didn't think much of him so they kind of went by the wayside at that stage.
Speaker B:And so I made that choice and I didn't feel as though I could get out of it.
Speaker B:And I, I seriously was very naive with hindsight and, and I guess I was wanting.
Speaker B:I hadn't, I hadn't realized then that it just felt like, it felt like this rather than.
Speaker B:I couldn't see the wood from the trees with it and it was just okay, that's what we did.
Speaker B:It, it was, and I just got on with it.
Speaker B:I didn't, I was totally in fine flight and I, I guess with, in reality I wasn't, if I think about it, I probably, I wasn't overly confident in myself, but I never realized it because I just used to charge off.
Speaker B:I traveled on my own.
Speaker B:I, if I wanted to do something, I did it.
Speaker B:And I suppose I still do, but with a lot more insight into the world now.
Speaker B:I'd like to think so.
Speaker B:And you know, that's the thing.
Speaker B:It can happen to anyone.
Speaker B:It is gobsmacking that someone, I mean, I'm relatively opinionated in a lot of things.
Speaker B:If I'm not, if I'm not happy with something and my conscience has to speak up and I always have been.
Speaker B:So how did I get into a situation like that?
Speaker B:I still can't explain it.
Speaker B:It doesn't fit with me and who I am at all.
Speaker A:So what did it take for you to get yourself out of that?
Speaker A:20 years is a long time and at some point, especially when you have two young children, you know, at some point enough does become enough.
Speaker A:What, what was your defining moment that said no more.
Speaker B:Okay, so there were two things actually.
Speaker B:So what?
Speaker B:One of the things that happens when you're with someone that's a bit of a narcissist, he.
Speaker B:You move around like.
Speaker B:We didn't have a lot of.
Speaker B:We moved around a lot because we could.
Speaker B:And you know, it was easy for me to get work and he was working from home on the computer.
Speaker B:And so we never had a community around us.
Speaker B:And my family went by the wayside almost straight away, you know.
Speaker B:And we also didn't have children till about 12 years into the relationship.
Speaker B:And so I, I didn't have a community around me at all.
Speaker B:We would always move on.
Speaker B:You didn't actually feel as though you'd finished anything off.
Speaker B:You just were off you go again.
Speaker B:And this town that we were actually in, Cairns in Northern Queensland, and I'd been there two years and I made a friend and we were.
Speaker B:There was two things that happened.
Speaker B:I was going out to.
Speaker B:Hello?
Speaker A:No, you're still there.
Speaker A:I just given you the floor.
Speaker A:You're okay.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker B:I was going out to lunch with this girl who I'd been to, had been to lunch with once before and she rang, she rings me early, it was about.
Speaker B:And she just.
Speaker B:She rings me early in panic.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker B:I've just put dye in my hair and the water's been turned off in my apartment.
Speaker B:Can I come around and have a shower?
Speaker B:And I couldn't stop laughing.
Speaker B:So of course she comes around and has a shower.
Speaker B:And my ex husband, he was just, he was so rude to her.
Speaker B:I, I wasn't going to make apologies for anything, anybody.
Speaker B:Like he was so rude to her.
Speaker B:The way he treated me, you know, like a second class citizen.
Speaker B:It was gob smacking.
Speaker B:So that was the first thing.
Speaker B:And then the second thing was I actually met somebody dog walking.
Speaker B:Because my role had become in the house.
Speaker B:I didn't have much to do with my children, but my role was to walk the dog.
Speaker B:So I ran into this man who lived around the corner and we just got on really well.
Speaker B:So we used to walk the dogs together.
Speaker B:And the fact that I'd actually met somebody who I got on with and treated me like a human being.
Speaker B:It was two things that happened within the space, you know, short space of time that I thought, you know, I have, I have to get out because, you know, I actually laughed again and, and normal things that I hadn't done in such a long time.
Speaker B:And so I kind of packed my bag and left and that friend I stayed with for a couple of weeks before I got a place and I literally had one day when they were.
Speaker B:Because in the relationship as well.
Speaker B:So I go off to work, he'd be Mr.
Speaker B:Mum.
Speaker B:And they had their little routine.
Speaker B:So even when I was off, because, you know, know we were doing 12 hour shifts in intensive care, even when I was off, they had their routine.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:And I was often really tired as well, so I wasn't involved in the family life normally anyway, anyway, so they just got on with things and so I figured that, like there was nothing to lose.
Speaker B:It wasn't like I was involved with my children anyway.
Speaker B:And so literally they went out to do part of their routine one day and I packed my suitcase and I had a couple of canvases because I paint as well.
Speaker B:And I walked down the stairs and got picked up and left.
Speaker B:It was horrendous.
Speaker B:Even looking back now, it's like, oh my God, that feeling in your heart.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it takes a lot of courage.
Speaker A:It's funny though, you spent a lot of your lifetime under this suppression and it took seeing how he treated someone else for you to decide, well, I don't want that for myself either, you know.
Speaker A:That's kind of an interesting way to wake up to what nightmare you were living in.
Speaker A:So how did you transition yourself into the holistic life and the energy, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, that happened around then.
Speaker B:So I went down the traditional route, as you do, because that's what we know.
Speaker B:So I saw a psychologist and took antidepressants and at the end of that 12 months, nothing had changed.
Speaker B:And if anything I was, I was in a worse situation because I'd created all that pain and what the hell, why did I do that when I.
Speaker B:I'm probably worse off?
Speaker B:12 months, I'm feeling no better.
Speaker B:So fortunately I had not long started yoga and that was really the turning point.
Speaker B:So, you know, my first two weeks of yoga I joined the local yoga group and I knew that I had to do something every day for sanity.
Speaker B:So I did yoga every day.
Speaker B:And for the first two weeks I was in tears at the end of every class.
Speaker B:So I figured there's got to be something in this, don't know what it is.
Speaker B:And then it wasn't long after that that I did a teacher training in yoga and I actually moved to the country as well.
Speaker B:So I again, I had more space and time because it's not as expensive to live to spend on me.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:That and the teacher training course was around it was really mindfulness based.
Speaker B:So it was amazing actually if I'm honest to every one weekend a month for 12 months.
Speaker B:And it was one of these women who had been doing yoga Since.
Speaker B:For the 40 years.
Speaker B:So she was a true yogi.
Speaker B:And this eccentric woman who just, it was, it was perfect.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker B:That meant.
Speaker B:And to the.
Speaker B:The environment she created and the women that she attracted.
Speaker B:You know, I was so opinionated the first weekend.
Speaker B:I remember being the angry one and hated the world and just surrounded that like just shut up, Jody, get on with it.
Speaker B:And it was exactly like that.
Speaker B:So really quite quickly my life started to change outside and my kids would catch the train up every second weekend and I got a property for them so that they could stay with me and we started to create a relationship of our own together and I started to find out what it was like to be a mom.
Speaker B:And it was really fantastic actually.
Speaker B:And I even got.
Speaker B:And job wise I got an area of work that worked so I didn't have to work full time.
Speaker B:And it was, it was in a cath lab cardiac.
Speaker B:I ended up getting into the cardiac area and, and that's.
Speaker B:So that was, that was the turning point.
Speaker B:And then three months into that I was introduced to energy psychology and ended up doing an energy psychology diploma.
Speaker B:And basically that's dealing with your emotions and giving myself permission to understand what the hell was going on.
Speaker B:And that was so those two together, it was a game changer.
Speaker B:Like understanding yourself on an energetic level.
Speaker B:Life is just so different.
Speaker B:So, so different.
Speaker A:And you know, and when you start to actually.
Speaker A:When you actually start to be surrounded by love and compassion and positive energy, it melts away all the rest of that baggage and that dirt that you were.
Speaker A:It's kind of like a energetic shower.
Speaker A:It just washes away all of that other stuff.
Speaker A:And then you realize, wow, I'm still in here.
Speaker A:I just buried myself but I'm still in here.
Speaker A:So I'm going to ask you about this, this book.
Speaker A:How did you come to be a part of this book?
Speaker B:Well, one of the many things I did so roll on.
Speaker B:I did the yoga and energy psychology and then I.
Speaker B:My ex husband decided he's English so he wanted to come back to the UK and bring the children and for me to come over, I needed a visa, so I applied for a visa.
Speaker B:And the first visa I applied for I didn't get.
Speaker B:And so I was not a very happy chappie.
Speaker B:In fact I was really, really angry.
Speaker B:And meanwhile I'd been starting to follow.
Speaker B:I don't know if you're familiar with a company called Mindvalley?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I'd started following them and they have a Mindvalley University.
Speaker B:It's a month.
Speaker B: Well then this was: Speaker B:And they'd done the first year in Spain.
Speaker B:And then I followed, started following them just after that and then, then they had one in Tallinn, Estonia.
Speaker B:And because I hadn't got a visa, I couldn't get into the UK to visit my children even for a tourist visa, even for a couple of weeks while I was waiting to get a visa to live here.
Speaker B:So very annoyed, I quit my job knowing that I could pick up work there when I got back.
Speaker B:And I bought a ticket to Talon Estonia for a month with Mind Valley University.
Speaker B:And my daughter flew over from the UK and she came and spent the month with me and I met a lady called J.B.
Speaker B:owen.
Speaker B:I met her on a train on our way to Mind Valley.
Speaker B:They were living just around the corner from us there.
Speaker B:And that's how I'm, that's how I was asked to write for Ignite your Parenting.
Speaker B:But we had them.
Speaker B:Honestly, it was the most amazing month because within that group of, I think there was about 800 people.
Speaker B:But within that group you found your tribe.
Speaker B:And it was such a nurturing environment.
Speaker B:All these women that I met with teenagers and they're all not looking for an institutional way of life.
Speaker B:So it was so enriching and holistic and we were, we had the most amazing time together getting to know my daughter because I hadn't spent much time with her and also being nurtured by this group of women.
Speaker B:Oh, it was, it was amazing.
Speaker B:So that's how I got to write that, that chapter in the book.
Speaker B:But also like I'd heard about her starting this, this Ignite series and I had not when I actually arrived here.
Speaker B:I wrote it after, when I just arrived in the UK and I went down to the park and I had all this stuff in my head and I must have written in about three hours and that was more or less the, the chapter that came out.
Speaker B:So it was clearly ready to be written and, and put in the book.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And now you have a website, then you have an offer that helps people as well.
Speaker A:What is your, what is your website about and what do you, what do you offer on there?
Speaker B:Yeah, I actually, there's a few things.
Speaker B:So I do one on one work with people.
Speaker B:So I've got a 12 week program, Radiant Health, Harnessing the power to heal Yourself.
Speaker B:So it's, it's about, well, as you, as you introduced in, empowering people in emotional and physical pain.
Speaker B:So it's about understanding yourself internally.
Speaker B:And we go through that whole process of awareness what is going on and then it takes you onto where would you like to be and let's create that vision and head towards that.
Speaker B:But until you have that awareness, how do you, how do you change things?
Speaker B:So, so a lot.
Speaker B:It's actually my journey.
Speaker B:It's all the shortcuts from my journey to that got me to this point now.
Speaker B:And I've got some free things on the website as well.
Speaker B:So it sort of gives you that introduction of me and who I am so you can get to know me a bit better.
Speaker B:And I've got, on Facebook and Instagram and I've got a YouTube channel that does actually need a little bit more work.
Speaker B:But there's some videos on there that, that'll help with energy medicine.
Speaker B:So for me it's very much about making it practical for people so that they, they can use it on an everyday basis.
Speaker B:Because you know when, when people come, go to any energy healer, you come for a session and at the end of it you feel amazing.
Speaker B:But how do you maintain that amazing feeling?
Speaker B:It's, it's learning how to do that when you're not in front of your healer because we've all got it within us, but it's knowing that it's there.
Speaker B:And also because we can't see energy, let's.
Speaker B:How do, how do we, how do we get a handle on it?
Speaker B:It's that and there's, there's a lot of ways to do it and everybody is different.
Speaker B:So it's very much a, it's very much tuning into you as an individual and how that's going to benefit you and, and where you're, where you need help because there is just, no one is the same.
Speaker A:So you've been on both sides of the aisle, the Western medicine traditional and the energy healing.
Speaker A:A lot of my tribe, a lot of my circle is energy healers and various modalities.
Speaker A:My wife is an energy healer and a shamanic reiki healer and various other things as well.
Speaker A:So I'm very tuned with that world and I know that there's a time and place for western medicine.
Speaker B:Oh absolutely.
Speaker A:But my wife has been chronically ill for 10 years and we spent the first two years of her illness going to every doctor at the Mayo Clinic.
Speaker A:Here is a very world renowned clinic.
Speaker A:People from all over the world come to the Mayo Clinic for their treatments because it's world renowned.
Speaker A:But we went three to four times a week for the first two years and saw almost every specialist that they had.
Speaker A:And what we ended up with after those two years was extremely high medical bills and her on about 45 different prescriptions.
Speaker A:And she didn't even start to get better until we started reducing those medications and tapping more into her own energy and her own body and her own healing.
Speaker A:So again, I reiterate, yes, there's a time and place for Western medicine.
Speaker A:Surgeons.
Speaker A:I'll take them all day long.
Speaker A:Doctors.
Speaker A:I, I have a very strong opinion on doctors.
Speaker A:They're legal drug pushes.
Speaker B:Well, for.
Speaker B:I don't know how.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, that's another conversation.
Speaker B:Probably I'd be curious to know how it works in America.
Speaker B:But the thing like.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's a.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You've got to, if you're in an emergency situation every time, go to the hospital.
Speaker B:No question about it.
Speaker B:And if you're in doubt, go and get tests.
Speaker B:If your intuition is telling you it's something more, go and follow your intuition 100%.
Speaker B:But when you've had all the tests and there's.
Speaker B:And they can't find anything wrong.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Chronic illness.
Speaker B:90% of chronic illness is caused by stress.
Speaker B:So that tells me that.
Speaker B:Let's work on de stressing.
Speaker B:And I'm not sure how having a tablet can de Stress you.
Speaker B:There's so many.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then they give you one tablet to treat the other tablet that sets the side effects for the other tablet.
Speaker A:And doctors here in America seem to want to mask over the illness or the problem as opposed to heal the cause and the rote.
Speaker A:My wife had breast implant illness.
Speaker A:She was poisoned by her implants.
Speaker A:She had heavy metal toxicity.
Speaker A:At one point she had arsenic poisoning and almost died from.
Speaker A:And none of these pills are going to fix that.
Speaker B:Getting stuff out of your body, it's a toxin.
Speaker B:And this is the thing.
Speaker B:And in the, in the, in the place that my last workplace, that happened often as well.
Speaker B:People having to come in to get the best breast implants removed because they were toxic to their body.
Speaker B:Now why are they even allowing that to happen?
Speaker A:Yeah, people would be very much amazed.
Speaker A:I, we are very adept in what goes into those now.
Speaker A:And my wife, you know, people would think, oh, well, she had the, you know, the silicone.
Speaker A:No, my wife had the saline and she got the saline because she knew the silicone was bad.
Speaker A:And when we got her explanted, one of the things we found out is, is that every Single implant is encased in silicone.
Speaker A:So it doesn't matter that you have saline.
Speaker A:It is encased in the silicone.
Speaker A:And we have a laundry list of metals and heavy metals.
Speaker A:I mean, they have acetone, they have plutonium, they have aluminum, they have titanium, they have printer ink, they have kerosene, arsenic.
Speaker A:Why do you need all this crap in your body to look nice and natural?
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:And if.
Speaker A:And look, if people want implants, great, go get them, but do it with the information of what you're actually getting, because you're getting a saline sack.
Speaker B:It's the.
Speaker B:It's the conformed.
Speaker B:It's the informed consent.
Speaker B:That's the thing.
Speaker B:It is completely that with so many things.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's like with the heart, you know.
Speaker B:Well, it's actually not just the heart.
Speaker B:It's with anything.
Speaker B:People come in and we read off, we ask them questions.
Speaker B:We ask them really practical questions.
Speaker B:Now the question that we ask, because a lot of the work in the cath lab is done under X ray.
Speaker B:Well, all of it.
Speaker B:And so we ask every single person between the ages of 12 and 55, are you.
Speaker B:Is there any.
Speaker B:At every single person, is there any chance you're pregnant now?
Speaker B:I'm sorry, but how.
Speaker B:You have to make a joke of that because the majority of people that are men, that look like men are not pregnant.
Speaker B:But we have to ask that question.
Speaker B:But they don't ask what happened to you in the 12 months prior to you presenting with a heart problem?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Did you have any stress in your life?
Speaker B:You know, because I can tell you now, 99.9% of them will actually have had stress in their life prior to presenting.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Just because you have a conversation with them.
Speaker B:And that's what most of them say, but it's never asked.
Speaker B:And you know, when I was working in Melbourne, there's a condition on with for the heart that.
Speaker B:It's called takasubo.
Speaker B:And it gives you all the presentation of having a heart attack.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:They say it usually happens for women and it's to do with grief.
Speaker B:It's called the broken heart syndrome.
Speaker B:So you think you're having a heart attack, so you get in there under X.
Speaker B:And takasubo means squid in Japanese.
Speaker B:And the X.
Speaker B:But the X ray, under X ray your heart.
Speaker B:So the blood vessels are fine.
Speaker B:They're getting the oxygen.
Speaker B:So the pain is caused by not enough oxygen to the heart with a constriction.
Speaker B:No constriction, but the heart looks like a squid around the atrium.
Speaker B:Which is the top of the heart and the ventricles is.
Speaker B:There's like a constriction, like a squid, and they're not pumping synchronistically, so there's desynchronization.
Speaker B:And the heart isn't getting the blood it needs.
Speaker B:But because it looks like a squid.
Speaker B:And so it's.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It should be a different treatment, form of treatment because they're getting that sort of pain, but in a lot of cases it's not.
Speaker B:And they're not.
Speaker B:They're not treated for grief afterwards.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:You'll never forget the picture once you've seen it once.
Speaker B:It was really distinct.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I chuckle at doctors now because my wife has become her own healer.
Speaker A:She's had to find the medical studies and the information to help herself get out of this.
Speaker A:And, you know, I.
Speaker B:Did she get involved in her healing Reiki after or before she got in?
Speaker B:This happened to her.
Speaker A:She got during.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So it started.
Speaker B:So she was in ill.
Speaker B:In Hill Health, and then she started her healing journey.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:I challenge any CIA agent to find more information than my wife can because she.
Speaker A:She will dig until she finds.
Speaker A:But in order to go to a doctor, they have to have, you know, these high reviews.
Speaker A:And I remember we had to go to a gastro doctor here, and he had all these awards for being the best in the valley and, you know, all these medical accolades and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:And so we go, and we're sitting kind of behind him, and he's sitting at his desk and he's reading down her chart.
Speaker A:And I can see his side profile, so I can see the side of his face.
Speaker A:She's sitting a little further back and can't.
Speaker A:And I see him going down all of her medical issues one by one, and his face just kind of gets more and more forlorn.
Speaker A:And he turns to her and he says, I can't help you.
Speaker A:You need to find another doctor.
Speaker A:And what I saw his face do is mentally say, I can't put her in my little box, and I can't give her a pill that she hasn't already had.
Speaker A:So I have no solutions.
Speaker A:And you're supposed to be the best that we have.
Speaker B:And so he would.
Speaker B:He would.
Speaker B:Then that would hurt his statistics is what you're saying, right?
Speaker A:It would hurt his statistics.
Speaker B:So he will only deal with the people that are easy to care for.
Speaker B:That's why statistics look so good.
Speaker B:All that is just appalling.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we had another doctor.
Speaker A:She tried him and he couldn't help.
Speaker A:And, and so several years later she went back to that practice to try a different doctor in that practice.
Speaker A:And they said because you weren't able to be helped by this other doctor, no other doctor in our practice can treat you.
Speaker B:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:That's the kind of crap that we have here in America.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:So how do you help people with their emotion and physical pain to take control of their health and understand.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's, there's a lot of, lot that we can do, but it's working on tuning into you.
Speaker B:So what are you thinking?
Speaker B:What are you feeling?
Speaker B:So, and, and what do you believe?
Speaker B:So a lot of the thing we can do is change the beliefs and tap into the emotion that comes with all that.
Speaker B:So getting that connection with this is what I'm thinking, this is what I'm feeling, because it's all energy.
Speaker B:Everything is energy.
Speaker B:And then once you start to look at the world like that and tune into.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, well, every time I think that that's what's going on in my body.
Speaker B:Because every symptom you get is because, because there's been an.
Speaker B:So hang on, let me.
Speaker B:It's easier to explain it.
Speaker B:Like if you're experienced symptoms, then you've got energy that's out of whack.
Speaker B:So if we can balance the energies in your body, which is, that's what we work with, balancing the energies, then you're not going to get the symptoms.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So anything we can do to balance them.
Speaker B:And so working, working on your beliefs, there's a whole, there's a whole few programs that we can do depending on what suits you.
Speaker B:And then you can also measure your energy.
Speaker B:So it's kinesiology testing is one of the methods and it's just working out then where your imbalances are.
Speaker B:So I will test and for me it's really important.
Speaker B:Having had the background that I've had, I want to know that that is weak and then we're going to strengthen it or vice versa.
Speaker B:And you know, we go, as we mentioned about stress earlier.
Speaker B:So most people that come to me in the Western world, which is where I operate and even if it's online, have got, so have got over.
Speaker B:Over energy in their fight and flight response.
Speaker B:So most of us are stressed.
Speaker B:And you can, you can measure that in the body by testing, by testing that in the body.
Speaker B:And so there's a part, there's a system, the meridian system is like the arteries and veins of the energy medicine world.
Speaker B:And a part of that is called the triple warmer.
Speaker B:And that's the fight and flight part of it.
Speaker B:And it's usually over energized because we are on the go and we've got all those hormones running through our body and our bodies aren't designed to, to have those stress hormones running through them for any length of time.
Speaker B:So because that's going on, triple warmer is usually overactive.
Speaker B:And but to be overactive it has to, it's a system that we're talking about.
Speaker B:So it has to draw energy from somewhere.
Speaker B:And the first place it draws energy is from the spleen meridian.
Speaker B:So for most of us, the triple warmer is overactive and the spleen is underactive.
Speaker B:And so, so some really basic things we can do are calming the triple warmer, strengthening the spleen and then connecting their balance so that they've got a good relationship as well.
Speaker B:So that's sort of 101.
Speaker B:And then we, then we look at things like grounding again.
Speaker B:It's, it's that basic frame that we want to get right because we work with.
Speaker B:There's nine energy systems we can work with.
Speaker B:We want to get the foundation right so that then anything we else we do work with is more chance it's going to hold for longer because our energy has bad habits.
Speaker B:So we want to change those habits just like everything else, because everything's energy anyway.
Speaker B:But if we can change the habits of the energy that have got you that those migraines, then we'll do that, rewire them.
Speaker B:But we've got to keep practicing those new habits so that they're reinforced and something for example, like a migraine, you know, so, so.
Speaker B:Oh, it's like any.
Speaker B:So first of all you would.
Speaker B:Someone will come and usually tell you.
Speaker B:You don't actually have to know anything about their story, but most people do want to tell you their story.
Speaker B:So you hear about, about the story, you've got a bit of information.
Speaker B:Then you do their energy testing and they say they've had headaches.
Speaker B:So there could be a few things that we were dealing with.
Speaker B:But we would look at the, the pathways, the energetic pathways around the area where the pain is.
Speaker B:It may not be there, it may be referred pain.
Speaker B:So there's lots of things that you.
Speaker B:Basically you're paying detective with all the bits and pieces and you work on that because the whole idea behind it is we get the energy flowing.
Speaker B:If you've got something, a chronic illness, there's, there's energy blocked somewhere.
Speaker B:So let's unblock it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:My, my wife's Currently going to a Chinese medicine guy, and that's exactly what he does.
Speaker A:And it's funny because, you know, he can touch various parts of her body and say, this is causing your pain in another part of your body.
Speaker A:And so it's not just where you're feeling the pain.
Speaker A:It's coming from some other part of your body.
Speaker A:And that's where it's manifesting is in that part.
Speaker A:So I very much understand what you're doing there.
Speaker A:You've been on both sides of the aisles, as I said.
Speaker A:Which do you prefer and which do you see better results with, given the trauma side aside?
Speaker B:Yeah, of course.
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker B:Definitely the.
Speaker B:What I'm doing now, like, there's no question the, the transformations and the.
Speaker B:But it's the empowerment.
Speaker B:The, the.
Speaker B:Once people realize.
Speaker B:Start to make connections about what they believe and where they're feeling, and once they start to make it, they realize they have got control over it, they can then tap into it and, and release it.
Speaker B:And it's, It's.
Speaker B:It's unbelievable.
Speaker B:And the transformation in people's lives.
Speaker B:So they come in coming with panic attacks.
Speaker B:How do I stop that?
Speaker B:I can't cope with anything at the moment.
Speaker B:And then you show them some.
Speaker B:Some really simple exercises to change that.
Speaker B:And then once they get over.
Speaker B:And once they get over the panic attacks, which can happen immediately, then all these other things that they start to work on, because you work on one system, then everything benefits.
Speaker B:And it's not just the panic attacks that it works on.
Speaker B:It works.
Speaker B:It benefits the rest of your life because it's.
Speaker B:You're raising your frequency.
Speaker B:Everything is energy.
Speaker B:If it feels good, do more of that.
Speaker B:If it doesn't feel good, then ask yourself, well, how can we think differently?
Speaker B:Can we make a different choice?
Speaker B:It's kind of that simple, but it's getting into the habit that makes it simple initially.
Speaker B:It's like, what the hell she talking about?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It's a.
Speaker A:It's a simple but complex system, and it is boiled down to our beliefs.
Speaker A:And, and part of that is reprogramming ourselves from what we were told to believe.
Speaker A:Because you really have to ask yourself, is this something I truly believe, or is this something that I picked up somewhere along the line from somebody else's belief completely?
Speaker B:And that's the.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:And, you know, I mean, they're exactly the questions I've asked.
Speaker B:This program that I've created is things that.
Speaker B:Exactly all those things that I've asked.
Speaker B:So it's really digging deep without.
Speaker B:And confrontational but not in a painful way.
Speaker B:Confrontational in the light.
Speaker B:Oh my God, she's right.
Speaker B:Yes, it's that.
Speaker B:And then you start to join the dots and then, and then with the, there's an online component, but there's also.
Speaker B:Then we get on to anything that's being triggered, work on it, and we go through, there's several processes we can go through to work through that energetically.
Speaker B:Because I mean, even now, if I'm stuck on something and I haven't been able to work on myself, I will go to a friend and we just.
Speaker B:You're human.
Speaker B:If I don't work on myself, then I can't work on anybody else because I'm just chock a block full.
Speaker B:And so being human, we all need energy.
Speaker B:Medicine is the reality, but certainly from a chronic illness point of view, I would encourage anyone to delve into it.
Speaker A:I truly believe that healing is a lifelong journey.
Speaker A:It's not a final destination.
Speaker A:There is always some next level that can take us to the next level.
Speaker A:And it is awareness of yourself and the world around you that really creates the opportunity for healing to start, in my opinion.
Speaker B:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker B:I would 100% agree because again, I know it's like everything is energy and it isn't.
Speaker B:You can't stand alone because we live in a world.
Speaker B:So it's very much around the environment around you.
Speaker B:But that also brings you back to like, you know, lots of healers, which is fantastic because then you're surrounded by that energy more often than not and that's the sort of world that you want to create.
Speaker B:Like, why wouldn't we, why would, why, why would you want to invite angst into your world, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And even, even in that environment, there's still always something you.
Speaker A:The flow does get stopped up and blocked.
Speaker A:If we don't continually mindfully keep it flowing, it will become stagnant.
Speaker A:You've experienced a lot in your life.
Speaker A:You've gone from freedom of a child to the confinement of a 20 year marriage, to a long lifetime in cardiac units into this now energy practice.
Speaker A:So I'm going to ask you the one final question that I ask all my guests.
Speaker A:What does a warrior spirit mean to Jody?
Speaker B:What does a warrior spirit mean to me?
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:Warrior spirit.
Speaker B:Keep going to try and tap into your intuition because you've got all the answers anyway.
Speaker B:It took me a little while to find mine.
Speaker B:But I tell you what, when you, when you do, it's just, it's such a beautiful way of living.
Speaker B:Even, even if things aren't what you would consider perfect, a warrior spirit is just tapping into you because you're put on this earth for a purpose and the world needs you to work that purpose.
Speaker B:So keep looking until you find it because it leaves you in a, in a place of contentment, I guess what is what I would say.
Speaker B:And that's been a very, very long time coming.
Speaker A:Well, I appreciate that you joined me today in our tribe and I'm glad that you're out the other side and doing your life's purpose as well.
Speaker A:It's funny how we can look back at the mess of our life and find out that the tapestry becomes our purpose in life.
Speaker A:So, you know, kudos to you for getting out that other side and helping so many others and I just appreciate you joining me today on the show.
Speaker B:Thanks, Darrell.
Speaker B:I've really enjoyed it.
Speaker A:And if you'd like to connect with Jodi, you can connect to her on her website, jodiannlaw.com and and all of her social media platforms and take control of your health.
Speaker A:And I want to thank you again for joining us on this edition of A Warrior Spirit.
Speaker A:Be sure to like or subscribe so that you catch all the episodes and have a beautiful energy centered day.
