Don't judge me!

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Hey.

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Welcome back to another episode of a warrior spirit, where the inner warrior shines in their light.

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Presented to you by Praxis 33, the company that aligns with your thoughts, goals and actions to create your best life.

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I'm your host, Darrell Snow, and today we're going to be talking with Mandolin Moses.

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Mandolin is a public speaker and an internationally published author of the upcoming book I am not your villain, I'm your mother.

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She's a dedicated teacher, advocate, and advisor with a mission to create a world where people no longer fear themselves or others.

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And her goal is to empower individuals to thrive mentally, emotionally, and physically.

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Mandolin, I appreciate you joining me today, and welcome to the show.

Mandolin Moses: 00:00:48

Hi.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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Mandolin, with all that I just introduced for you.

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Powerful words.

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How did.

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How did you get your start?

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Where did you.

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Where were you born and raised?

Mandolin Moses: 00:01:04

I was born and raised in Adina, Minnesota.

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And so, yeah, cold country, different from Phoenix, which is.

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I'm very happy about.

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I'm actually very familiar with Minnesota.

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Yeah, no, I'm actually very familiar with Edina.

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I grew up in Iowa, lived in Burnsville, you know, for a long time.

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So I'm very familiar with Edina.

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And I understand why you are now in the valley.

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We don't shovel sunshine.

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How long did you stay in Minnesota?

Mandolin Moses: 00:01:40

Well, we moved there when I was in.

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Well, we moved out of Minnesota when I was in elementary school, and then we moved to Washington state.

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My dad got transferred for his job over there.

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So then I went to high school, in middle school out in Washington state and college.

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And then right after college, I had a really hard time finding a job in Washington.

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We lived in southeast Washington where it was very, very.

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A lot of agriculture.

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So because of that, like, if you are not bilingual, you are not getting a job.

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So I could not find a job.

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So I was working in a call center, which is hands down the worst job you can possibly have.

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And so I was like, I cannot do this anymore.

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I did that and my parents out here in Arizona.

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So I was like, let me just come out here and visit my parents for the summer.

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And then I saw, like, there's billboards and there's advertisements.

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I was like, oh, my gosh, this is a real city.

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I was like, there's opportunities here.

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So I was like, I'm not going back.

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So actually, I drove back.

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I gave my.

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Most of my furniture and everything away and packed what I could in my car and I drove back over here.

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At the time, my kids were four and five or.

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Or no, five.

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Yeah, four and five.

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Because they were in preschool.

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Kindergarten.

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Then they did kindergarten.

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Yeah, so six.

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Five and six, I think.

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And then so yeah, the two car seats and whatever we could fit in the car and drove back down here and just started my life over here.

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And it was.

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Wow.

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And the fact that you even were here in the summertime and decided to come back is a testament to your willpower Anyway, because 115 degree summer is, you know, not the decision that most people make.

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Oh, yes, I'll go there.

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I was born with a little crazy.

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So, you know.

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Yeah, I love that.

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How did you get, how did you get your start in advertising?

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Other like, what was your interest?

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Because yes, you may have gone to college for that field, but growing up, that's not usually an aspiration that many choose.

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How did you get your interest in the creative?

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Well, I've always.

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So my first degree in college is fashion design.

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I have, I'm just an artist at heart.

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I went to school for.

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And I've always want, I just always aspired to be like a big famous fashion designer.

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So I went to school for fashion design.

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But I was a teenage mom and so while I was in school for fashion design, you know, I tell people I'm in college and they'd be like all excited, you know, and then I tell them what I, oh, what are you going to school for?

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I'm like, oh, fashion design.

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And then of course everybody's disappointed.

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Oh, oh, okay.

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And I'm like, you know, because in America if you're not a nurse, a doctor, an engineer or a lawyer, you're pretty much worthless.

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You know, that's just how society judges you.

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And, and I felt just really highly judged.

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So while I was in college and I finished up that degree, I was like, you know, I better go to school for something that I could at least use this, you know, knowledge with.

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So I went back to school and I studied business.

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And then it was funny because still that wasn't good enough for people, you know.

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So I was like, well, the only way I'm going to be respected in the community is if I go to school for healthcare.

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So I went to school for medical and then I ended up being a surgical assistant for five years.

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I was in the medical field five years before surgery.

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And then there was one day that one of the doctor was like 45 minutes late coming into the operatory to give this patient an exam, but I already knew what she needed.

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And I was like, oh, forget it.

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You're sitting here waiting forever.

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So I said, I went and wrote her treatment plan.

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I brought her up to the front desk.

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This is the surgery she needs.

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She's good.

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And she's like, all right.

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So she's scheduling and paying for her surgery.

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And then finally, the doctor came out and said, oh, you guys are already squared away without me?

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And the patient said, oh, yeah, we're good.

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Mandolin's got me all set.

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And he goes, you know what?

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She could probably do the surgery better than me.

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And at that moment, something just clicked in my brain.

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And I said, he's right.

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You know, I could with my eyes closed.

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And I was like, I gotta get out of this field.

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There's no going up from here.

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Like, it's only lateral movement from here.

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So, of course, me again, trying to please society.

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I decided, you know what?

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I'm going to go back to school.

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I'm going to be a surgeon.

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Wow.

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So I went to.

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I was going to join the air Force and then go to medical school through the Air Force.

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And I went to the recruitment office, and I had the conversation with them.

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And after that, I, like, I walked out and I said, why am I doing this?

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Would I make a great surgeon?

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Absolutely.

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I really did like surgery, but that's not what I wanted to do.

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So I got really, really depressed.

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I was like, I have to start living my life for myself.

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And that's when I decided I'm leaving this industry.

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And everybody thought I was crazy.

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Shoot.

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I thought I was crazy.

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I'm a single mom with two kids leaving a really good career.

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And long story short, I ended up getting into a commission sales job for a moving company, and I started doing marketing and sales for that company.

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And that's.

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That.

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That became my journey of marketing.

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When you.

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And that's a.

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That's a long road to marketing.

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You know, finally follow following your heart.

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Throughout your arc, you've talked about.

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I've had to please society.

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Had to please society.

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Who in particular were you trying to please?

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Your parents, your community?

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Like, who exactly were you thinking you needed to please?

Mandolin Moses: 00:08:18

You know, it was funny.

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So my mom has a lot of mental illness and personality disorders.

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And so, you know, my mom never liked me since the day I was born.

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Right.

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And I never understood what was wrong with my mother.

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And so as.

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Alrighty, so you were.

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You were saying that as you were growing up, your mom had mental illness of some form, but didn't really like you as a child.

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How many children are you, the anointing child?

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You.

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4.

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Were you the oldest?

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You're the oldest?

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Did she come around and like the rest of the.

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Your siblings?

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Oh, yeah.

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She loves the other kids.

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She just always hated me.

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Did you ever figure out why?

Mandolin Moses: 00:09:20

Yeah, I mean, my mom.

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So.

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So, yeah.

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So going back to what I was saying, so I asked my mom if I could interview her, and I wanted to get.

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I wanted to understand her, you know, why she was the way she was.

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And anyways, she told me, she said, ever since the day you were born, the first thing you did was look, look me in my eyes.

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And you judged me.

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And I couldn't handle it.

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And I was like, that's the very first thing you think when your baby just came out of your stomach and you just rejected her because you said the baby looked you in the eyes and judged you.

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And for that, my mom never leave me.

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And so you can imagine, you know, someone living in, you know, a child living in a home where you just rejected, you know, just constantly rejected and neglected.

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And I suffered a lot of abuse.

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And so my entire life has been a mere reflection of judgment.

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Just constant judgment.

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Judgment, jealousy.

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You know, my mom.

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My mom's always been very jealous of me, always in deep competition with me.

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And, you know, as a child, it makes no sense.

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But, you know, when you evolve and you go through your journey, you know, you know, understand, you know, you have a better understanding of this.

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So judgment was something that was always very present in my life.

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When I was 14, when I had my first child, and while I was sitting in, when we took her to her first, well, the doctor.

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The doctor literally just started saying all of these things that I was meant to be.

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I'm going to be on welfare.

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I'm going to be this.

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I'm going to be like all of these things.

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And I just remember just checking out and saying, I'm never going to be what she told me I'm going to be.

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And so I, you know, I had two kids, ended up having two kids, 14 and 16 years old.

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Never collected a welfare check, never collected any check from the government except health, health insurance.

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I was a teenager.

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I didn't need health care, but other than that, I didn't.

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I did everything on my own.

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And so that fear of judgment was something that just ruled my life.

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So I was constantly trying to prove they were judging me to be.

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So I always was trying to put on this Persona of something that I wasn't, to please other people.

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I mean, teenage years are hard enough, especially for young girls anyway, so to have not only one child as a young teenage girl, but two children As a teenage girl and in a home where you're already perceived as this bad seed, bad apple, did you raise your children in that household with your.

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With your mom, or how did you survive that?

Mandolin Moses: 00:12:37

No, I.

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I got legally emancipated when I was 15 years old.

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So when I was in the.

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When I was in the hospital for two and a half months with my daughter, I was really sick.

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And right after I had her, I was in a coma for about four months or.

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Sorry, sorry.

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Not four months, four days.

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That's a big difference.

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For four days.

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And then my dad, you know, my dad comes and says that he got transferred to come to Arizona for.

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For work.

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And, you know, in that, in my mind, I was like, there's no way I'm moving to.

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You know, my family is so dysfunctional.

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There's no way I'm going to be able to finish my education.

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So I was telling, I think one of the nurses or something, I can't remember, and they're like.

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They were.

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They gave me an advocate, and I told the advocate about this story, and she was like, well, you have an option.

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You can become emancipated.

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And so while I was in the hospital, I had to go through the process of hiring a lawyer and getting legally emancipated from my parents.

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And that was at age 14, 15.

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I was like, I had my daughter three weeks before my 15th birthday.

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Okay.

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And so where does a young emancipated teenager with a child go to start raising her child and living life?

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Yeah, so I ended up moving in with my.

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My kid's father and his family.

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And then once I moved in with his family towards the end of the summer, that's when the real journey of life began.

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My daughter was two months premature, and so by the time we took her home from the hospital, she was 2 pounds, 4 ounces.

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So she was like, literally this.

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Not even the size of a doll.

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And now I'm in my new home with these people who I don't really know.

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And I was breastfeeding my daughter, and as I am breastfeeding my daughter, my kid's father comes into the room and just hits me across the face.

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And I start screaming and crying, and my daughter starts crying, and his mom comes into the room and said, what happened?

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And I said, he just hit me.

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And she said, well, you probably made him mad.

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So that was the beginning of a new journey for me.

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Yeah, that's not the reaction that I would have if my son hit any woman, especially the mother of his child while she's breastfeeding.

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So that would.

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That would not be the reaction that I would have.

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My son would have a very different discussion going on at that moment.

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So I'm fascinated by the grit and determination that you have because you started off life in a very horrible situation.

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You survived through a horrible situation, yet you have this amazing grit and determination.

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You were going to be, you know, the surgeon.

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You.

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You.

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You love fashion.

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You.

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You did, you know, you wanted to go to the Air Force to give your, you know, self a better opportunity.

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Where did that internal drive come from?

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Because you could have very easily succumbed to what society and the people around you were telling you.

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You're never going to amount to anything.

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You're always going to be on welfare.

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You're young, blah, blah, blah, all the bs.

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So where in you did you find that?

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And did you have any external mentor, guide, help, anything?

Mandolin Moses: 00:16:37

The answer to that is no.

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I mean, I was pretty much on my own a couple weeks ago.

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I was at dinner with a friend of mine, and we were kind of having, you know, discuss about my life.

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And, you know, he said, you know, Mandalin, it's, you know, it's crazy.

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It's unfortunate.

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He said, some.

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Many people learn to be resilient because they learn to be right.

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But you are resilient because you had to be.

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I didn't have a choice.

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You know, I just.

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I didn't have a choice but to be resilient.

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I didn't have a choice because I didn't have any on my side.

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You know, I'm now living in this with this abusive man.

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His family treated me horribly, and I didn't have anywhere to go.

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You know, I was 15.

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Even though I was legally emancipated, the laws said, like, I couldn't get a job until I was 16.

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Even though legally I could, they were still afraid of those laws.

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So I couldn't even get a place on my own.

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I couldn't anything because they were afraid of the laws.

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So I had to stick it out.

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And even to this day, you know, I always teach young people, value your education because that's the only thing in life that nobody can take from you.

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Nobody can take your education from you.

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So be educated.

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And for me, my education was more important than anything.

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So I stuck it out to make sure that I educated myself.

Darrell Snow: 00:18:12

And in your upcoming book or, you know, your book, I'm not your villain, I'm your mother.

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A.

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This is a very powerful book cover, and it's a very powerful title.

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What is the precipitation of this book.

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And what caused you to write this?

Mandolin Moses: 00:18:40

Yeah.

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So this book was.

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Came from.

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I mean, I've gone through a lot of hardships, but this came from the most painful moment of my life.

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Once my dog.

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My daughter got pregnant, and she's married.

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She got pregnant.

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And once she got pregnant, she.

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I don't know what happened to her.

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She turned and wouldn't let me.

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She wouldn't.

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She.

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She wouldn't let me see her.

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She wouldn't let me see the baby.

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She wouldn't.

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Nothing.

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And it was like in two weeks.

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Before that, she couldn't even get a haircut by herself.

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She's like, mom, can you come with me to get a haircut?

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I don't want to go by myself.

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And then all of a sudden, I'm completely, you know, X'ed out of her life, which was really weird.

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And right when this happened, I couldn't understand why her and her husband would do this to me.

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God said to me, it's time for you to get to work.

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Go write this book.

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You were never here to be a mother to just those two children.

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She's in my hands now, and I have her right where I want her.

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So I opened my computer and I started writing.

Darrell Snow: 00:20:03

And how old were you at this time to start writing this book?

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And how old was your daughter when she had her child?

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That.

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You're talking about your grandchild.

Mandolin Moses: 00:20:15

So today is his birthday.

Mandolin Moses: 00:20:18

I still haven't seen him.

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It was two years ago.

Darrell Snow: 00:20:23

And you started writing this book two years ago.

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Is it almost ready for publication?

Mandolin Moses: 00:20:32

It went into print Thursday, so I'll get my copies in about a month.

Mandolin Moses: 00:20:38

And then if everything.

Mandolin Moses: 00:20:40

There's no mistakes or any changes or anything that needs to be made, the book will be available in February.

Darrell Snow: 00:20:45

Oh, so right about the time this is airing, the book will be out.

Darrell Snow: 00:20:50

You've also.

Darrell Snow: 00:20:55

I'm in awe of your resilience because having survived trauma as a young boy, it's different, you know, for all that you've endured as a young girl and to be as resilient as you are.

Darrell Snow: 00:21:12

But not only are you resilient for your own life and to give yourself a better way, you're now in the.

Darrell Snow: 00:21:19

In the line to help others get through what they are doing.

Darrell Snow: 00:21:23

You've traveled internationally to.

Darrell Snow: 00:21:27

Yep.

Darrell Snow: 00:21:28

You've traveled.

Darrell Snow: 00:21:30

Yeah, that's that automated light you got.

Darrell Snow: 00:21:34

But you've traveled internationally to.

Darrell Snow: 00:21:35

To spread your message and to.

Darrell Snow: 00:21:38

To advocate for others.

Darrell Snow: 00:21:40

So as you're out there sharing your story and helping.

Darrell Snow: 00:21:45

What is the message that you bring to these young people who are going through something similar.

Mandolin Moses: 00:21:53

You know, the number one thing is your circumstances.

Mandolin Moses: 00:21:59

I want to say it this way.

Mandolin Moses: 00:22:01

Your circumstances, they don't define you, but they do.

Mandolin Moses: 00:22:06

How?

Mandolin Moses: 00:22:06

They, they don't define you because.

Mandolin Moses: 00:22:08

Because you grow up in, let's say, a ghetto or an abused home or, or a foster.

Mandolin Moses: 00:22:15

I met this kid when I was speaking out of school.

Mandolin Moses: 00:22:18

He was living in a trap house to avoid his abusive grandmother.

Mandolin Moses: 00:22:25

That doesn't define you.

Mandolin Moses: 00:22:27

How you get out of that and your behavior and your actions to learn from.

Mandolin Moses: 00:22:33

It defines who you are.

Mandolin Moses: 00:22:35

It defines your character, your circumstances there to realize your purpose and your mission on this planet, it is to help you to remember your divinity.

Mandolin Moses: 00:22:48

And so it's very important to not become a victim of your circumstances, but to become free of them so you can free others who have experienced the same thing that you have.

Darrell Snow: 00:23:03

Yeah, and I, when I'm coaching my, my clients, it's one of the things that, that we talk about becoming the victor over your story and not the victim of your story.

Darrell Snow: 00:23:14

And when you actually become the victor of your story, you tell your story differently and you tell it with more impact.

Darrell Snow: 00:23:22

Because we've all been through something, and as long as you're telling it from the victim side of that something, not many people are going to be impacted by it.

Darrell Snow: 00:23:33

They might say, oh, well, sorry for what you're going through.

Darrell Snow: 00:23:38

But when you start telling it from the victory side, now they have hope and now they have a path out.

Darrell Snow: 00:23:45

And you've given them the opportunity to see that if Mandolin can do it, I can do it.

Darrell Snow: 00:23:53

If she can do it, I can do it.

Mandolin Moses: 00:23:57

That's a very beautiful point, and I want to share a little example.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:00

So when I wrote my book, you know, I was, I was in it like, I mean, I was in.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:06

The pain was in it, you know, it was like.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:09

I mean, I.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:11

This book, it's.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:12

It's a fairly long book.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:14

It's 129,000 words, which a normal book is 80,000.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:18

But I wrote this book in less than three months.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:20

I wrote 14 hours a day.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:22

he morning and went to bed at: 11:30

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:26

I barely ate.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:27

I sold my car.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:29

I did everything I just wrote.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:31

And the craziest thing about it was, you know, once it got picked up, my agent picked it up and it, you know, then it started the editing process.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:42

There's a.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:43

There's a particular type of style, it's Chicago manuscript style that they have to Change the book.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:49

So when I got my first edits back, you know, what was the most surprising, alarming thing for me was I was like, oh, my gosh.

Mandolin Moses: 00:24:57

I had written the book in present time.

Mandolin Moses: 00:25:02

Like, this happened to me, and I this, and I this, and I this.

Mandolin Moses: 00:25:05

But when they edited the book, it was now past tense.

Mandolin Moses: 00:25:10

So it was such a healing to see that, no, it's over.

Mandolin Moses: 00:25:15

Like, that was the past.

Mandolin Moses: 00:25:16

So it's not there anymore.

Mandolin Moses: 00:25:18

Now I get to read my story from the past, not as I was in it, in the pain when I wrote it.

Mandolin Moses: 00:25:25

So that, to me, was just probably one of the most beautiful things in the life that this is over.

Mandolin Moses: 00:25:30

That book, that chapter of my life is done.

Darrell Snow: 00:25:33

Yeah, you don't have to.

Darrell Snow: 00:25:35

I talk about scars and scabs when it comes to pain and trauma, because many of us keep our trauma as scabs.

Darrell Snow: 00:25:47

As scabs.

Darrell Snow: 00:25:48

You can pick at them.

Darrell Snow: 00:25:49

They'll bleed.

Darrell Snow: 00:25:49

They'll bleed on you.

Darrell Snow: 00:25:50

They'll bleed on others.

Darrell Snow: 00:25:51

They'll, you know, still hurt you.

Darrell Snow: 00:25:54

But once they become scars, I have two scars on my neck from fusion surgeries.

Darrell Snow: 00:25:58

Once they're scars, you can rub all over them and you have a different interaction with them.

Darrell Snow: 00:26:03

They don't bleed on anybody.

Darrell Snow: 00:26:04

They don't hurt anybody, you know.

Darrell Snow: 00:26:07

So the point is to get your scabs to your scars so that you can interact with them from a more healed spot and they don't hurt you and others as you're telling the story.

Darrell Snow: 00:26:19

For you to be able to see that come out in print had to be very cathartic, you know, especially as a person who's going through all the trauma that you.

Darrell Snow: 00:26:29

That you've gone through.

Darrell Snow: 00:26:31

What's the main point of your story in your book?

Mandolin Moses: 00:26:37

So the book was written with the foundation of the fifth commandment.

Mandolin Moses: 00:26:43

I'm a very.

Mandolin Moses: 00:26:44

You know, at the end of the day, if you ask me who I am, I am a woman of God.

Mandolin Moses: 00:26:49

That's who I am.

Mandolin Moses: 00:26:50

And, you know, and so I wrote the book on the foundation of the fifth commandment, which is honor thy mother and thy father.

Mandolin Moses: 00:26:58

And basically, you're.

Mandolin Moses: 00:27:00

You're guaranteed a fruitful life.

Mandolin Moses: 00:27:03

And what that commandment means is you honor your parents and you honor all the ones that came before you.

Mandolin Moses: 00:27:12

And if you honor that wisdom that's passed down to you and you turn that into wisdom, then you're guaranteed the promise of your inheritance of being a divine being.

Mandolin Moses: 00:27:25

And so that is how this book is written, is really to help people understand the power of overcoming Your circumstances.

Mandolin Moses: 00:27:35

And Jesus only had one message, only one message in this whole wide world, and that is to forgive.

Mandolin Moses: 00:27:42

And anytime you're not forgiving, you're drinking poison.

Mandolin Moses: 00:27:46

And so these circumstances, you know, regardless of how egregious they are, I've gone through everything, but I'm not a victim of it.

Mandolin Moses: 00:27:56

And if I didn't go through these experiences, I wouldn't have been able to help all the thousands of people that I've been able to help over the years, right?

Mandolin Moses: 00:28:04

And now with this book, it's going to be millions.

Mandolin Moses: 00:28:07

So that's what this book, that.

Mandolin Moses: 00:28:08

That's what this is.

Mandolin Moses: 00:28:10

And it is the only commandment with a promise.

Mandolin Moses: 00:28:14

And so that's that.

Darrell Snow: 00:28:15

That is the foundation of my book, the Promise.

Darrell Snow: 00:28:22

Well, Jesus's teaching of forgiveness and of love.

Darrell Snow: 00:28:28

Love.

Darrell Snow: 00:28:29

Love is one of his greatest commandments.

Darrell Snow: 00:28:31

But the forgiveness part, the forgiveness, people misunderstand forgiveness.

Darrell Snow: 00:28:36

They don't understand that the forgiveness isn't for the person who committed the atrocity.

Darrell Snow: 00:28:43

The forgiveness is so that you don't have to carry that atrocity with you for the rest of your life and have it continue to harm you.

Darrell Snow: 00:28:49

Your forgiveness of them is irrelevant of whether they're worthy or not, of it.

Darrell Snow: 00:28:54

Because none of us, according to scripture or Bible beliefs or whomever people might want to connect with isn't forgive them so that they feel better.

Darrell Snow: 00:29:05

It's forgive them so that you can move forward with your life.

Darrell Snow: 00:29:10

None of us deserve the forgiveness that God gave us as humans and sinners, but yet he gave his life for those of us who accept him.

Darrell Snow: 00:29:22

That forgiveness comes unconditionally for us, you know, and so when we forgive, it's for us, not for others.

Mandolin Moses: 00:29:34

I mean, it's so true, you know, so this summer I had.

Mandolin Moses: 00:29:39

In June, I had a.

Mandolin Moses: 00:29:42

I almost died.

Mandolin Moses: 00:29:43

I had a very, very unexpected illness where I lost all the blood in my body.

Mandolin Moses: 00:29:52

Like, I had no blood left in my body.

Mandolin Moses: 00:29:54

Even, you know, the doctor was like, how the hell are you still alive?

Mandolin Moses: 00:29:57

I'm like, I have no idea.

Mandolin Moses: 00:29:59

I was like, by the grace of God, like, I shouldn't be here today.

Mandolin Moses: 00:30:04

And when you are at that last stage of your life, you contemplate a lot.

Mandolin Moses: 00:30:13

And even with, you know, the, you know, I spent my entire life under lies, you know, my mother's lies, my abuser's lies, and then now my daughter's lies, you know, it was like, I've spent my whole life under somebody else's lies.

Mandolin Moses: 00:30:35

And when I was sitting there, you know, thinking I'm about To die, you know, my heart stopped.

Mandolin Moses: 00:30:41

I.

Mandolin Moses: 00:30:41

You know, I was scared to death to go to sleep because I was like, my heart could stop.

Mandolin Moses: 00:30:47

I was so proud of myself.

Mandolin Moses: 00:30:49

And I was actually okay if I left, because I didn't have any hate in my heart.

Mandolin Moses: 00:30:56

I didn't have any resentment in my heart.

Mandolin Moses: 00:30:58

I didn't have any regrets in my heart.

Mandolin Moses: 00:31:01

So if I would have died, I would have died in peace because I didn't leave anything undone.

Darrell Snow: 00:31:09

And that's a place that many don't get to knowing.

Darrell Snow: 00:31:12

And you're super young, so it doesn't matter what age you are.

Darrell Snow: 00:31:17

Not many people get to a spot where they're at peace knowing that they did all they could on this earth while they were on this earth, and to live the life they were meant to live.

Darrell Snow: 00:31:29

So that, you know, that's a fantastic spot to be in.

Darrell Snow: 00:31:34

Thankfully, selfishly, you're still here.

Darrell Snow: 00:31:38

And did the doctors ever determine what caused this issue for you?

Mandolin Moses: 00:31:46

I mean, I'll be honest.

Mandolin Moses: 00:31:48

I think.

Mandolin Moses: 00:31:49

I believe very well what this was.

Mandolin Moses: 00:31:51

But, no, I mean, we.

Mandolin Moses: 00:31:53

The doctors are baffled, you know, so, ironically, I got sick June 4, and then on December 4 of 24, I got a clean bill of health.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:07

And for some reason, I had.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:09

I ended up having five transfusions.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:13

And then the last one I had was about three weeks ago, and.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:18

And I ended up gaining two and a half bags of blood, two and a half liters of blood.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:23

And the doctor's like, I don't even know how that.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:25

How did that.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:26

That's almost impossible.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:30

But I believe what happened was this was a spiritual blood transfusion.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:39

I had done so much work on myself.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:43

I had done so much work clearing out my bloodline that my body was like, it's time to remove this blood, you know?

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:53

And now I regenerated brand new blood.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:57

Like, every.

Mandolin Moses: 00:32:58

Every ounce of blood that's in my body right now is brand new regenerated blood.

Darrell Snow: 00:33:03

Wow, that's spectacular.

Darrell Snow: 00:33:07

And knowing that as your truth.

Darrell Snow: 00:33:11

And I totally believe in what you're saying, because I have that same spiritual connection and belief that.

Darrell Snow: 00:33:17

That you're talking about.

Darrell Snow: 00:33:19

So I believe that, you know, you were transformed.

Darrell Snow: 00:33:23

How does the new mandolin feel from how you felt prior to that occurring?

Mandolin Moses: 00:33:33

I'm gonna.

Mandolin Moses: 00:33:33

I'm gonna preface this for a minute because I really want.

Mandolin Moses: 00:33:37

I think it's important.

Mandolin Moses: 00:33:39

So back in, like, right in May, I went to St.

Mandolin Moses: 00:33:44

Lucia for about a month, and before that, I was juggling so much stuff.

Mandolin Moses: 00:33:49

And it was really funny because right before I went to St.

Mandolin Moses: 00:33:53

Lucia, I had a premonition and I was like, I think I'm gonna die.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:00

And I told one of my friends, I was like, I don't know, I feel like I'm gonna die.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:05

And I even told my therapist, I was like, I think I'm gonna die.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:10

I don't know, I just feel it so strong.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:13

But I was like, it doesn't feel like, you know, because when you go through an identity death, it can feel like a physical death.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:20

But I was like, it doesn't feel like that.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:21

I feel like I'm gonna have a physical death.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:24

So honestly, I was like, I'm going to St.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:25

Lucia.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:26

I'm gonna go chill.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:28

And I was just like, honestly waiting for the day to happen.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:31

I thought it was going.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:33

And the very last night that it was in St.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:39

Lucia, I was sitting on the beach and.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:41

And I hit that state.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:43

I hit that ultimate state of bliss.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:46

And it was just the most amazing feeling I've ever felt in my entire life.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:51

And I'm just sitting there, just in the sand and in the ocean.

Mandolin Moses: 00:34:55

And I was like, man, this is how I wanted to die.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:00

I wanted to die by myself in the ocean.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:03

I just.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:04

I didn't mean.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:05

I didn't want.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:06

I didn't feel a thing.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:07

Just nothing but bliss.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:09

And an ocean wave could.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:11

Could have swept me up, but I would have been totally okay.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:13

And I hear this voice and the voice said, don't ever lose this feeling.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:19

And then I just thought I was like, why would I ever lose this feeling?

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:22

This is the greatest feeling of my entire life, right?

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:25

And then I didn't die.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:29

But then I get on the airplane and I was like, well, is the plane gonna crash?

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:33

I was like, this is weird.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:34

Like, seriously, why did I feel this?

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:37

And anyways, I come back to the States and then two days later, my heart stopped.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:43

My heart stopped.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:44

And I literally died for a moment in the hospital.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:49

And it was so funny because.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:52

Sorry about that.

Mandolin Moses: 00:35:54

It was so funny because as I'm sitting there, the only reason if I wouldn't have gone to the hot.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:03

So I was going to go to Greece for the summer.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:06

I was like, I just want to go to Greece for the summer.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:08

But I was like, before I go to Greece, I need to go get some blood work done.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:11

I haven't gotten blood work done in a while.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:13

So I went to go get blood work and I was a little jet lagged, so I was going to be in bed, but my publisher had sent me edits for my book and just to stay on timeline Once they get it, that's priority.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:28

You drop everything.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:29

You make sure that you get that done, so you stay on deadline.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:33

So I was up editing my book, and I was about to go to bed, and I pick up my phone and I pick up my computer, and my phone is, like, blown up with messages or from calls.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:48

And it happened to be my doctor, basically saying.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:53

And he called me.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:54

He was like, dude, you need to go to the hospital right now.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:56

You're about to have a heart attack.

Mandolin Moses: 00:36:58

And I was like, do you have the right phone number?

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:00

He's like, am I talking to Mandolin Moses?

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:02

And I said, yeah.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:03

He's like, I have the right phone number.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:05

Get to the hospital right now.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:06

You're about to have a heart attack.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:08

And I was like, okay.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:11

So anyways, the whole point of my life, I believe, was to write this book.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:21

Because the only thing after I'm.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:24

When I'm sitting there in the hospital, the only thing that I felt that was left unfinished was this book.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:32

And I heard, you've got to come back and get this book out.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:36

And I was like.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:37

And that was the only thing.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:38

That's the only thing that kept me alive, my spirit alive over this last six months was the book.

Mandolin Moses: 00:37:44

And me editing the book is the only reason I didn't have a heart attack.

Darrell Snow: 00:37:49

I love the connection you have with God because God is using you for bigger things than Mandolin Moses could ever imagine.

Darrell Snow: 00:38:03

And it's ironic that your last name is Moses, because I often refer back to Moses when I talk to people about spirituality, because people think that they're not worthy based on their own sins and their own trauma and their own darkness.

Darrell Snow: 00:38:23

But Moses was a murderer.

Darrell Snow: 00:38:25

And yet he's one of the greatest figures in the Bible.

Darrell Snow: 00:38:30

Moses also was blessed to lead the people out of.

Darrell Snow: 00:38:37

Out of Egypt, back to Israel.

Darrell Snow: 00:38:39

And that journey, if you look at it on paper, should only take about two years maximum.

Darrell Snow: 00:38:48

But it took 40 years because the people weren't willing to learn the lessons that they needed to learn while they were taking that journey, yet they still made it.

Darrell Snow: 00:38:59

And even when they made it, there's a point where Moses was tired and weary, and he had to have his brother and someone else help him hold the staff up so that his army would continue to fight, which to me, is a great arc.

Darrell Snow: 00:39:21

We may come to this world in darkness.

Darrell Snow: 00:39:23

God has a purpose for our life that we would never even imagine.

Darrell Snow: 00:39:27

And sometime along the way, we still need to be held up and lean on others.

Darrell Snow: 00:39:33

And in your case, I believe you leaned on this book.

Darrell Snow: 00:39:38

To follow your journey into the promised land for whatever God has in store for you.

Darrell Snow: 00:39:45

Coming up.

Darrell Snow: 00:39:46

I truly believe that greatness.

Darrell Snow: 00:39:49

You're at the beginning of your journey, not the end of your journey, is my true belief for you.

Mandolin Moses: 00:39:57

And I appreciate that.

Mandolin Moses: 00:39:58

I believe that as well.

Mandolin Moses: 00:39:59

You know, I feel like, you know, the previous 42 years of my life has been warrior training.

Mandolin Moses: 00:40:06

I've been like, you know, you know, going back to what I was saying before, you know, your circumstances, they do define you, your character.

Mandolin Moses: 00:40:17

And most people that have gone through what I have gone through, it would be naturally justified, you know, if I was living the story that, you know, the stereotype would pin on me, you know, and it would be justified coming from, you know, you know, abusive home and abusive.

Mandolin Moses: 00:40:41

And a very abusive relationship, two children.

Mandolin Moses: 00:40:47

But God was testing me the entire time, not only on my resilience and endurance, but my faith.

Mandolin Moses: 00:40:58

Because when you are in these certain situations that are extremely traumatic and extremely painful, you don't have anything but faith.

Mandolin Moses: 00:41:10

You've got nothing.

Mandolin Moses: 00:41:11

And if you don't follow that faith, then you perish.

Mandolin Moses: 00:41:16

And this is where people stay in victimhood, you know, this is why you see people that don't rise from their circumstances because they've lost faith.

Mandolin Moses: 00:41:25

And for years, I've been contemplating this word hope, for years and years and years, because people love to use the word hope.

Mandolin Moses: 00:41:35

And having this sense of hope drives people to achieve things.

Mandolin Moses: 00:41:43

But I never really believed in hope because I felt it was false.

Mandolin Moses: 00:41:47

I felt hope was a false security.

Mandolin Moses: 00:41:51

And then one day I was like, it's not hope.

Mandolin Moses: 00:41:55

Hoping and wishing for something doesn't really give us results, but faith and the surrender in faith gives us everything.

Mandolin Moses: 00:42:03

So I don't believe in hope.

Mandolin Moses: 00:42:05

I believe in faith because faith is what's gotten me through everything that I've lived through.

Darrell Snow: 00:42:12

I think hope and faith are keenly intertwined.

Darrell Snow: 00:42:18

You need both elements of it in order to get to that next level.

Darrell Snow: 00:42:24

In my personal belief, when I was living on the streets, going through the shit that I was going through, I never sat there and said, gee, God, thank you for the preparation for a life future to come.

Darrell Snow: 00:42:37

I was saying, you know, how the heck do I work my way out of this and having the hope of something better, but the faith to know that if I did my part, it would be.

Darrell Snow: 00:42:51

There was an intertwining for me because I've believed that, you know, if you are given a shovel, you'll never get a hole unless you do your part to dig with it, right?

Darrell Snow: 00:43:05

But you have to have, you have to have the hope that you're going to get the shovel.

Darrell Snow: 00:43:10

You have to have the faith that it's going to arrive when it needs to be there.

Darrell Snow: 00:43:14

And then you have to have the faith that using that shovel will get you what you need with it.

Darrell Snow: 00:43:19

So for me personally, I think that they're intertwined.

Darrell Snow: 00:43:22

I think you have to have one to benefit the other.

Darrell Snow: 00:43:26

But you are absolutely right.

Darrell Snow: 00:43:28

Hope alone will not do it.

Darrell Snow: 00:43:31

Hope and faith are a co creation for it.

Darrell Snow: 00:43:34

Because I know, like you just said, tons of people hope for something, but they don't have the belief, the faith or the action behind that to co create it.

Darrell Snow: 00:43:46

And I think it's the co creation of our life.

Darrell Snow: 00:43:50

We've all been given a message from God if we stop and listen, but few of us act on it like you did because we don't have enough faith that that action is going to create something.

Darrell Snow: 00:44:05

We hope that the word is going to be enough and we don't do anything more with it.

Darrell Snow: 00:44:11

So the fact that you leaned into your situation and actually maneuvered your way to where you are now is a true testament.

Darrell Snow: 00:44:25

Because, you know, the road, I use analogies a lot because people can think in pictures and the headlights on your car only go out 200ft for a reason.

Darrell Snow: 00:44:37

You don't need to see the whole road.

Darrell Snow: 00:44:39

You just need to know that the path that you're on is lit to get to where you want to go.

Darrell Snow: 00:44:44

And you have to continue driving forward to see the rest of what that road develops.

Darrell Snow: 00:44:50

So the fact that you did that is a true testament to others that it can be done.

Darrell Snow: 00:44:57

And if you live in your faith with your actions behind it, it will get you more results than just hoping that something good comes of it.

Mandolin Moses: 00:45:08

Well, you know, it's the, you know, fourth series of the Bible that most Christians, most, you know, people don't even know about.

Mandolin Moses: 00:45:20

They don't know about the Book of Acts, you know, and the Book of Acts is what ties up, you know, the other three series of the Bible because this is how you manifest.

Mandolin Moses: 00:45:32

It's through action, you know, it's through action.

Mandolin Moses: 00:45:36

And so the Book of Acts is very important to understand and to read and to know.

Mandolin Moses: 00:45:41

And I want to give an example.

Mandolin Moses: 00:45:43

This happened just recently.

Mandolin Moses: 00:45:44

So with the stuff that happened with me for my, with my daughter, you know, my daughter had said just the most hurtful thing to me and it just, it stung like, like crazy.

Mandolin Moses: 00:45:57

I've done, I've suffered a lot of abuse, but this was the Worst.

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:02

You know, she said to me, don't you think you're so special just because everybody likes you?

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:08

And I was like, what?

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:11

Why do you want people to hate your mother?

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:13

Like, I don't, I don't know, I don't get that.

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:15

I don't understand that.

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:17

And so for the last two years, I've been trying to.

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:23

My brain has been trying to connect the dots into me believing her story about me.

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:32

And I was like, well, I must have been a horrible mother.

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:36

But then my brain is like, no, you weren't.

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:40

You freaking sacrificed everything for these children.

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:44

You fought your whole family when they were trying to force you to have an abortion.

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:50

You gave your kids an amazing life.

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:53

They, we went on vacations.

Mandolin Moses: 00:46:55

You took up, you, you put them both in, in college, on their own.

Mandolin Moses: 00:47:00

On your own.

Mandolin Moses: 00:47:01

You did this and this and this.

Mandolin Moses: 00:47:03

You cooked them, home cooked meals, you went to school, you did all this stuff.

Mandolin Moses: 00:47:06

And I'm like, but to get what she did to me, I must have been horrible.

Mandolin Moses: 00:47:13

So I was holding on to this, trying to convince myself that was everything that she told me I was.

Mandolin Moses: 00:47:22

And I realized the reason why I was dying because anemia, I have very, very severe anemia represents, I believe in somatic healing and anemia represents not having any joy in your life.

Mandolin Moses: 00:47:41

And my daughter had sucked that joy from me.

Mandolin Moses: 00:47:44

And I was like, I have to get over this or I'm going to die.

Mandolin Moses: 00:47:49

I only have two options, either to die or get over this.

Mandolin Moses: 00:47:55

So I said, I got to get over it.

Mandolin Moses: 00:47:58

And so I work with this practitioner who does a healing modality called the emotion code.

Mandolin Moses: 00:48:05

And I been working with him for about two years.

Mandolin Moses: 00:48:09

And I messaged him and I said, send me an invoice, need a healing, swear to God.

Mandolin Moses: 00:48:19

Couple hours later, like that was in the morning and then 3 o'clock in the afternoon, I meet this guy.

Mandolin Moses: 00:48:25

He's a very prominent business owner and I'm, I'm a geek when it comes to business.

Mandolin Moses: 00:48:29

I love business.

Mandolin Moses: 00:48:31

So him and I are talking about business and for about 30 minutes I just randomly met this guy and he said, you know, thank you so much.

Mandolin Moses: 00:48:39

This is been one of the best conversations I've ever had.

Mandolin Moses: 00:48:42

And he pulls out of his pocket $100 bill and he gives me a hundred dollar bill.

Mandolin Moses: 00:48:48

I was like, what's this for?

Mandolin Moses: 00:48:50

He said, thank you for the conversation, hands me the hundred dollar bill.

Mandolin Moses: 00:48:58

Thirty seconds after I said goodbye to that guy Matthew, my practitioner sends me a text message.

Mandolin Moses: 00:49:06

I just sent you your invoice.

Mandolin Moses: 00:49:10

I opened up My email.

Mandolin Moses: 00:49:12

Guess how much that invoice was?

Darrell Snow: 00:49:14

It was a hundred dollars.

Mandolin Moses: 00:49:16

It was a hundred dollars.

Darrell Snow: 00:49:17

Yep.

Mandolin Moses: 00:49:18

And I gladly gave that hundred dollar bill to Matthew.

Darrell Snow: 00:49:21

Yeah.

Darrell Snow: 00:49:23

Serendipity is not serendipitous when you understand the divine intervention that occurs in our life.

Darrell Snow: 00:49:30

The signs are everywhere if people want to open their eyes to them and believe them.

Darrell Snow: 00:49:35

So I am amused.

Darrell Snow: 00:49:38

I'm sitting here with a smile on my face because that's a normal thing in my life.

Darrell Snow: 00:49:43

I see it all the time, every day.

Darrell Snow: 00:49:47

So to hear it in others just makes me smile because I know God's working.

Darrell Snow: 00:49:55

You know, they say God works in mysterious ways.

Darrell Snow: 00:49:57

He does.

Darrell Snow: 00:49:58

It's not as mysterious when you lean into your faith and believe that it's the possible, you know, So I, I totally.

Darrell Snow: 00:50:08

I'm sitting here smiling for you, so.

Mandolin Moses: 00:50:11

Well, it's really that action, you know what I mean?

Mandolin Moses: 00:50:14

It was like when you take that action with the intention and the will behind it, that's when the universe co conspires with you.

Mandolin Moses: 00:50:25

Right?

Mandolin Moses: 00:50:25

Co collaborates with you.

Mandolin Moses: 00:50:26

And this is what we were just talking about, that whole thing when you're just sitting there hoping and wishing, oh, I just really hope I'm going to get a million dollars or a new car, a new job or a new husband or a new wife, or I'm just going to sit here and hope.

Mandolin Moses: 00:50:40

And you're just like thinking that just you're hoping is going to bring all of this in.

Mandolin Moses: 00:50:45

And you're right.

Mandolin Moses: 00:50:46

It's the faith.

Mandolin Moses: 00:50:47

Okay, this is going to happen.

Mandolin Moses: 00:50:48

What do I need to do next to show the universe that I'm ready to receive this?

Mandolin Moses: 00:50:55

And then you take that divine action and then the universe is like, okay, you showed up for me, I'm going to show up for you.

Darrell Snow: 00:51:03

Absolutely.

Darrell Snow: 00:51:04

Yeah.

Darrell Snow: 00:51:04

It's the, you know, the Secret was hugely widely popular years ago.

Darrell Snow: 00:51:11

And one of the things that I believe it fell short on was the action part.

Darrell Snow: 00:51:18

It led people to believe that hoping and wishing and saying blind affirmations alone was enough.

Darrell Snow: 00:51:26

Because it's that action part.

Darrell Snow: 00:51:31

I heard a preacher say once, and this has always stuck with me since I heard it.

Darrell Snow: 00:51:36

He said, many people are waiting on God, but what if God is waiting on you?

Mandolin Moses: 00:51:46

It's a beautiful quote.

Darrell Snow: 00:51:48

It's that co creation action part.

Darrell Snow: 00:51:51

And if you can't do well with little, you aren't going to be worthy of a lot.

Darrell Snow: 00:51:57

You have to be grateful, joyful and abundant in your action with where you are in order to receive greater.

Darrell Snow: 00:52:07

Because it's through that action, that your abundance in whatever it is is going to be tamped down and tenfold over.

Darrell Snow: 00:52:18

So the co creation of our life, it's one of the reasons it's a pillar in my, in Praxis 33.

Darrell Snow: 00:52:26

You know, I named my company Praxis 33 because Praxis is the integration of thought and action.

Darrell Snow: 00:52:32

And 33 is an angel number of abundance and prosperity.

Darrell Snow: 00:52:36

So you have to have the thought, the action and then the interjection of the universe to make it the abundance.

Darrell Snow: 00:52:46

So what's now on the next horizon?

Darrell Snow: 00:52:49

Because you're already an international speaker, you're by the time this comes out, going to be a published author, you've already changed thousands of people's lives with just your life story and what you've done.

Darrell Snow: 00:53:02

What's next on the plate for this new mandolin?

Darrell Snow: 00:53:07

Moses?

Mandolin Moses: 00:53:10

You know, I wish I even knew, to be honest.

Mandolin Moses: 00:53:16

You know, one of the things that is different in my life that changed many years ago is I'm a servant of God and oftentimes I don't know what that even means.

Mandolin Moses: 00:53:36

God puts me in these situations and puts these people in front of me and I'm like, okay, well this is, okay, this is interesting.

Mandolin Moses: 00:53:47

And so whatever it is that God asked me to do, I do.

Mandolin Moses: 00:53:51

I've only got one job and I've only got one employer.

Mandolin Moses: 00:53:55

And that employer is God and I'm here to serve his people.

Mandolin Moses: 00:53:59

And so whatever that looks like.

Mandolin Moses: 00:54:02

So one of the things that I know that that look, that I know that that looks like is for the last two years I've been working on my startup and I created what I call, they're called sovereignty homes.

Mandolin Moses: 00:54:16

And we invented a house that is made out of all recyclable and renewable material that generates its own water, energy, food and fuel.

Mandolin Moses: 00:54:28

And so this is my absolute passion and life's work.

Mandolin Moses: 00:54:34

I truly, truly believe that no one on this planet should ever have to worry about where they're going to live or how they're going to eat.

Mandolin Moses: 00:54:41

So I created a solution for that.

Mandolin Moses: 00:54:44

So starting in January, we're going through our fundraising round to raise money for these homes.

Mandolin Moses: 00:54:52

My dream of this, of these homes is to create a development and a community to go back to indigenous style living where we live in a community of people, where you have unlimited family.

Mandolin Moses: 00:55:10

I want to house orphan children.

Mandolin Moses: 00:55:12

I want to take in kids who have aged out of foster care.

Mandolin Moses: 00:55:15

I want to take, take people who are trying to get a fresh start out of getting out of the prison system for non violent and non sexual crimes.

Mandolin Moses: 00:55:24

Teach them entrepreneurship and give them, give them a family.

Mandolin Moses: 00:55:28

So that's that.

Mandolin Moses: 00:55:31

One of the other things was I'm going to be starting a mystery school.

Mandolin Moses: 00:55:36

A couple years ago, I just remembered this the other day.

Mandolin Moses: 00:55:38

I didn't forgot that I wrote this.

Mandolin Moses: 00:55:40

I was given an entire curriculum of a mystery school.

Mandolin Moses: 00:55:45

And so I'm going to be teaching healing and spiritual modalities, very, very deep modalities that many people haven't heard of.

Mandolin Moses: 00:55:54

And going to be doing retreats, taking people on these different retreats and going through these processes of this mystery school which are really deep ancient teachings of the Tao and Tantra.

Mandolin Moses: 00:56:08

So I know that's something that I'm working on right now.

Mandolin Moses: 00:56:11

I'm just trying to decide where that first retreat wants to be.

Mandolin Moses: 00:56:15

So.

Mandolin Moses: 00:56:16

And then I plan on also doing family retreats, bringing families together in a retreat style and creating community events to teach families to teach parents and children how to communicate better with each other.

Mandolin Moses: 00:56:33

Because at the end of the day, every single problem on this planet doesn't matter how macro this problem is.

Mandolin Moses: 00:56:41

It all has one micro cause and that is the downfall of the family unit.

Mandolin Moses: 00:56:46

And we must repair the family unit.

Mandolin Moses: 00:56:48

So these are the things that I'm focused on for next year.

Darrell Snow: 00:56:52

It is no wonder you needed new blood to accomplish all that.

Darrell Snow: 00:56:56

That's a, that's not an old blood project.

Darrell Snow: 00:56:59

That's definitely.

Darrell Snow: 00:57:00

Oh no, that's fresh blood.

Darrell Snow: 00:57:02

And it's a, it's a joy that you are still with us.

Darrell Snow: 00:57:06

It' pleasure to know people like you are still out there and exist.

Darrell Snow: 00:57:11

And I am thankful that you came on this show to share this part of your journey.

Darrell Snow: 00:57:18

I'm going to ask you one last question that I ask all of my guests.

Darrell Snow: 00:57:21

What does a warrior spirit or having a warrior spirit mean to mandolin Moses?

Mandolin Moses: 00:57:29

There's only two states in this that you can be in, right?

Mandolin Moses: 00:57:35

And that is either suffering or grace.

Mandolin Moses: 00:57:38

And so it's just perspective.

Mandolin Moses: 00:57:40

You know, it's like you can either stick in the suffering or you can be in grace.

Mandolin Moses: 00:57:46

They're synonymous.

Mandolin Moses: 00:57:47

Those, those two words, they're synonymous and they go hand in hand.

Mandolin Moses: 00:57:51

So a warrior spirit is seeing that your circumstances are not there for your suffering.

Mandolin Moses: 00:57:58

You're.

Mandolin Moses: 00:57:59

It's there to set you free.

Mandolin Moses: 00:58:02

Is there to set you free.

Mandolin Moses: 00:58:04

So drop the story.

Mandolin Moses: 00:58:05

A warrior spirit is about dropping the story and seeing yourself for who you are, which is a divine child of God.

Mandolin Moses: 00:58:14

That's the only thing that you are.

Mandolin Moses: 00:58:15

You're nothing else.

Mandolin Moses: 00:58:16

You are a divine child of God.

Mandolin Moses: 00:58:17

And recognizing that, remove the shame out of your life and realize that you are nothing but grace.

Darrell Snow: 00:58:24

I love that, that, you know, drop the story and you're a divine child of God.

Darrell Snow: 00:58:30

Those are huge.

Darrell Snow: 00:58:32

So I thank you for, you know, your time today and thank you for coming on and sharing this journey.

Darrell Snow: 00:58:39

And if there's anything that my wife and I can do to, to help you.

Darrell Snow: 00:58:44

She's passionate about a lot of what you spoke about as well.

Darrell Snow: 00:58:48

She is a healer and has lot of those modalities.

Darrell Snow: 00:58:53

You were talking about knowledge.

Darrell Snow: 00:58:56

And so if there's any way we can, you know, help in your journey, please just reach out and let us know.

Darrell Snow: 00:59:04

So I thank you for all of that.

Mandolin Moses: 00:59:07

Yes.

Mandolin Moses: 00:59:08

Thank you so much for having me.

Mandolin Moses: 00:59:09

This has been such a joy.

Darrell Snow: 00:59:11

And if you would like to connect with Mandolin, you can go to her website, mandolin moses.com and you can also connect with her on all of the social media, LinkedIn, Instagram and YouTube.

Darrell Snow: 00:59:27

And we hope that the book is a huge success and that people find their peace in that story as well.

Darrell Snow: 00:59:40

And as always, I want to thank you for joining us on this edition of A Warrior Spirit.

Darrell Snow: 00:59:44

Be sure to like or subscribe so you catch all the episodes and we wish you a blessed 2,025.